Mr. Ralph Winnie and Mr. William Yale
The State of U.S.-China Relations
Wednesday, August 2nd, 2017
Author: William Mallard
(Audio + Talk)
Ralph
Winnie is a partner of Henson, Pang and Winnie, a premier international
law firm and consulting group with offices in Washington, D.C. in the
United States and Shanghai in China. He also serves as Director of the
China Program for the Eurasia Center and its Eurasian Business
Coalition, an organization dedicated to promoting and preserving the
ideas of affordable housing, economic cooperation, environmental
sustainable development and the promotion of business development, tax
and trade between the United States and the fifty-nine nations
comprising Eurasia. Mr. Winnie has extensive experience in international
affairs, international business development and trade, and domestic and
international tax policies. Mr. Winnie has held many prominent
positions including most recently: Director of the China Program for the
Eurasia Center; Vice-President of Global Business Development for the
Eurasian Business Coalition; and countless board positions for
international organizations. William Yale is an Adjunct Fellow at the
American Security Project and a Research Associate at the SAIS Foreign
Policy Institute (FPI). He has previously worked at the U.S. Naval War
College and the State Department.
Mr. Winnie and Mr. Yale came to
the DACOR Bacon House to hold an Q&A session concerning the subject
of the general state of U.S.-Chinese relations and included issues such
as the South China Sea, North Korea, and the Trump administration. Mr.
Yale’s first question was on Mr. Winnie’s views concerning the Trump
administration’s impact on the U.S.-China relationship. Mr. Winnie
responded stating that President Trump’s views of China have been
characterized by strong language but that his focus has been on
developing bilateral relationships and negotiations, as opposed to the
strong focus on multilateral deals and relationships from previous
administrations. Hence the U.S.’ removal of itself from the
Trans-Pacific Partnership, which President Trump viewed as detrimental
to the U.S. Despite the consistent amount of goodwill still in Asia
towards the U.S., Mr. Winnie stated that the Trump administration’s
words and actions could erode said goodwill. Thus, while initial
U.S.-China relations haven’t deteriorated overmuch, China is having to
reexamine its relationship strategy and is therefore looking to expand
its relationships and alliances with other entities such as the EU.
Mr.
Yale then switched subjects and asked whether there were any levers
through which the U.S. and China could work together towards a solution
concerning North Korea. Mr. Winnie responded by stating that some
possible solutions for the U.S. are that it could penalize the Chinese
banks that are connected to various Chinese front companies that smuggle
goods to North Korea. As well, the U.S. has several issues through
which it can influence China such as Taiwan, the islands in the South
China Sea, and issues concerning the Chinese-Indian border. The
discussion then examined ways in which the U.S. can respond to China’s
human rights record. Mr. Winnie then explained that the U.S., while it
should be confident in its projection of its soft power abroad and
should work to promote democracy and freedom within China, must maintain
a sense of wariness and caution, since the Chinese don’t want to bow to
foreign interference in their domestic affairs.
The discussion
then changed gears and focused on the South China Sea. Mr. Winnie
reviewed the U.S.’ interests in the South China Sea and emphasized
differing scenarios based upon the U.S.’ strategy in the
region.
As an illustration, if the U.S. wishes to maintain its status as the
global hegemon, it must be committed to maintaining large numbers of
military forces in the region to dissuade China’s military advances and
reassure America’s regional allies. If not, Mr. Winnie stated that the
U.S. should commit to no more than ensuring access to free seas for
maritime trade and should sit back and let China continue to develop and
rise in power. Mr. Winnie did state further that the U.S. had too many
interests in the region to affect a pullback and could not afford to
resign its commission as the global hegemon, which would necessitate
increased military cooperation with its regional allies to hedge against
a swiftly rising China.
Mr. Yale followed up with a question
concerning the new U.S. ambassador to China and his thoughts on the
perceived effectiveness of the new diplomat, to which Mr. Winnie
responded by stating that the ambassador was a good pick with extensive
knowledge and experience of Chinese relations and culture. Mr. Winnie
went further, stating that this new ambassador has a long-standing
commitment to the principles of free trade and will be able to foster
long-term relationships with the Chinese government. As well, Mr. Winnie
believes that the new Secretary of State will be able to use his
experience leading a large, multinational corporation to forge strong
ties with the Chinese leadership. Finally, Mr. Yale asked Mr. Winnie
about his opinions concerning China’s upcoming Party Congress in the
Fall, to which Mr. Winnie replied that China’s top leader, Xi Jingping,
is the most powerful and influential leader that China has seen in
decades and will most likely continue to solidify his power when the
Chinese government next convenes.
Mr. Winnie and Mr. Yale then
concluded the initial portion of their discussion by taking questions
from the audience. One question concerned Mr. Winnie’s perspective on
the perceived ties between President Putin and Xi Jingping, to which he
replied that, while the two leaders both respect each other and have
forged closer ties, the Russian and Chinese peoples don’t hold each
other in very high esteem, making their partnership one built on shaky
foundations. As well, Mr. Winnie spoke on China’s use of its soft power,
particularly through its cultivation of the One Belt, One Road
initiative. He sated his belief that the global banking system needs to
be liberalized and that the U.S. must continue to cultivate
relationships with other Asian states. Mr. Winnie concluded the
discussion with a brief set of remarks concerning President Trump’s
foreign policy. He stated that Mr. Trump approaches his foreign-policy
decision-making from the perspective of a business-man focused on
bilateral business deals. Thus, the expectations of Mr. trump to become a
diplomat are largely unfounded as he will continue to conduct deals on a
case-by-case basis like the businessman that he in fact is.